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( M. In that respect I would draw you attention to the fact that one should make a distinction between the survivors, i.e. And the Rangers were not a dumping ground for disciplinary problems. We don't have to resolve the discrepancies, but we should at least note them. It's right at the beginning of the movie. But while I don't know Durning and have only met him once, he is close with several close friends of mine, and I asked them to ask him about the Malmedy thing. It isn't clear if he were a replacement en route to a line unit, or a member of the replacement detachment's cadre when he was wounded in Normandy on 15 Jun (the initial replacement detachments were displacing to operate from Normandy during this same week). Durning served as a soldier in World War II, during which he was awarded a Silver Star, three Purple Heart medals, and a Good Conduct Medal. Durning's memorable roles included the Oscar-winning The Sting (1973) and crime drama Dog Day Afternoon (1975), along with the . He was the son of Louise (ne Leonard; 18941982), a laundress at West Point, and James E. Durning (1883 c. Tootsie. The Service Stars (or campaign stars or battle stars) came in bronze or silver. We'll never know the whole story of his war years.I used to hear the difference between a "sea story" and a fairy tale was a fairy . Whether true or not, the statements of the French Consul would not be admissible in any U.S. civilian or military court since they do not satisfy either the Best Evidence rule or the Hearsay rule. We owe him a debt of gratitude as we do the many other World War II veterans who served alongside him. Prior to appearing in the Burt Reynolds's TV series, Evening Shade, as the town doctor Harlan Eldridge (19901994), Durning appeared with Reynolds in five films, beginning with 1979's Starting Over, followed by 1981's Sharky's Machine, 1982's Best Little Whorehouse in Texas, 1985's Stick and 1999's Hostage Hotel. He was an infantryman,. Again, am reluctant to cast aspersions, but not many men advertise their valor awards, but refuse to clearly state what units they served in. It contains a roster, list of decorations awarded, and some information on landing craft assignments. Sheesh. A few words of respect for Charles Durning who died on Monday at age 89. But interestingly, in the detailed Wikipedia discussion of Malmady, they conclude that Durning was not a part of the event. --rogerd (talk) 02:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC), I had the priviledge and honor to meet Charles Durning some years ago, when I was on The Los Angeles St. Patrick's Day Committee, and we made him "Grand Marshall" for the parade in Hollywood. On par with his multitude of feature film roles, Durning has always been in high demand on television and has guest starred in Everybody Loves Raymond (1996), Monk (2002) and Rescue Me (2004). The Battle of the Bulge started on 16 Dec 44, and the Malmedy massacre happened on 17 Dec 44. There tends to be a correlation between the quality of character actors and how big of a character they are themselves. Early life. In 2010, the two filed an official Declaration of Separation. Again, Durning is not listed. Depot/ Repl. He appeared in John Frankenheimer's I Walk the Line (1970) starring Gregory Peck, and three Brian De Palma movies: Hi, Mom! But, there is no way Durning is the second most decorated hero of WWII, see Audie Murphy and Matt Urban. The biggest joy of the experience was getting to spend the day chatting with Mr. Durning. First, no one doubts he was at D-Day and the Battle of the Bulge, but he also told me he was there at Malmady. Kaspazes talk 13:00, 29 December 2006 (UTC), User:Monkeyzpop has made an edit to this article about some statement that Burt Reynolds supposedly made on a TV show, that he is disputing. - While many individual service records were indeed destroyed by fire, the General Orders which issued Silver Stars were stored at other locations - such as in the unit files - that have been archived at other facilities. 68.124.153.86 (talk) 00:34, 30 April 2008 (UTC) Gerard, Other than his wartime experiences, the article makes no mention of Charles Durning's career pre 1973. [18] The Huffington Post compared the two men, calling them "character actor titans".[19]. And then I flash back to Kathy Martin, the Kansas School Board Member in Flock of Dodos, who said shes comfortable believing Washington was our first President because people were there to see that, but not comfortable believing fossils could be millions of years old because nobody was actually alive that saw a lungfish crawl out of the water. As if eye witness accounts were more credible than science. Mr. Steve Karras, among other researchers, has accessed primary sources such as Durnings discharge papers, his medical records, unit personnel rosters and morning reports, Army General Orders, and other records, as well as secondary sources such as unit official histories, to assemble an accurate record of Durnings military experiences. Durning was drafted into the U.S. Army just in time to fight in World War II. The ceremony took place in Los Angeles and the presenter was Philippe Larrieu, Consul General of France. Charles Durnings significant decorations include the . The chest wound which earned him the Purple Heart prompted his evacuation to the United States for recovery where he spent the remainder of his time with the Army. The inability of anyone, to include his family, to produce these General Orders, or even cite the GO#, must arouse curiosity, to put it mildly. Kampfgruppe Peiper immediately began firing upon Battery B, sending the Americans into a panic. Today's #VeteranOfTheDay is Army Veteran Charles Durning, who served as an infantryman during World War II and later became a prolific actor. In March 1945, Durning was moving into Germany with the 398th Infantry Regiment when he took a bullet to the chest. television commercial for the Kerry campaign, Obama commercial that I discussed a few weeks ago. 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Warren Kozak writes in the Wall Street Journal, "The Real Rules of War," Dec. 23, that his father, who survived the Battle of the Bulge, told him that for two weeks . I have put some editing only text above the section warning editors not to edit that area. Durning began his career in 1951. he and the rest of his company were captured and forced to march through a pine forest at Malmedy, the . Is it him, or someone who really looks like him? And even though the obituaries now are saying he didnt like to talk about his war experiences, he shared everything with me. Alfred "Ed Moch" Cota. While Oldbubblehead's research apparently verifies the Silver Star, the issue will not be put to bed until the GO (with its citation extract) can be located. Durning won the Los Angeles Drama Critics Circle Award for his powerful performance in The Westwood Playhouse's 1977 production of David Rabe's Streamers. His father was an Irish immigrant and his mother was of Irish descent. at Frances (disambiguation). The net result was a commercial that was okay. In the past I've seen folks read an entry that said 'Bronze SS'and interpret it as the man earned both a Bronze Star Medal and a Silver Star Medal, when in fact it just denoted a single bronze Service Star for a campaign ribbon.98.255.89.22 (talk) 00:56, 12 July 2013 (UTC). Michael Dorosh 14:48, 21 August 2006 (UTC), An editor made this edit that accuses Durning of exaggerating his military record. Total mustering out pay was $300 $100 was paid at the time. Go for it - its obviously a field of study that you enjoy and you have the chance to make your name. Drafted at age 21, he was first assigned as a rifleman with the 398th Infantry Regiment, and later served overseas with the 3rd Army Support troops and the 386th Anti-aircraft Artillery (AAA) Battalion. Part of the reason he was willing to talk may have been because I told him some of my fathers war experiences from the Bataan Death March in the Philippines. He was 89. After the offensive, Durning received his second Purple Heart. Howell's threads since he came on the old Shooters site before it closed down and he has been a lightning rod from day one. - After being wounded in Normandy, Mr. Durning was declared fit for duty on 6 Dec and transferred to the 10th Replacement Depot (in England) on 12 Dec 44. I realize that one will oppose the statement of the French consul. His wife is Mary Ann Amelio (1974 - 24 December 2012) ( his death), Carole Doughty (27 June 1959 - 1972) ( divorced) ( 3 children) I'm guessing the latter was in response to Durning wanting to clarify things in the time leading up to his award from the French on 22 April. I'd be interested to learn how he came into show business - his turn in "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas" shows him to be a gifted dancer. Charles Durning was a boxer, ice-cream seller and dance instructor before establishing himself as an actor. There were a few border states where mercury pollution in popular waterways was a serious issue, so the environmental folks in the Kerry campaign were eager to associate him with the efforts to combat mercury pollution. Don't know whether you have seen this discussion of Mr. Durning's service: That at least would acknowledge the elephant in the room. The Pursuit of Happiness. During the German attack, Durning reported that a particularly young soldier charged him, but Durning couldnt bring himself to fire. Charles Durning, a Tony Award-winning actor whose prolific work in films and television included supporting roles in the classic comedy "Tootsie" and the TV sitcom "Evening Shade," died Monday.. Nightmares are indeed an indicator of PTSD, but not everyone who has experienced stress or has nightmares is suffering from a "disorder". David T Tokyo (talk) 05:40, 15 October 2008 (UTC), This is a major hole in the article. Before jumping into your new job all gung-ho, you would do yourself a great disservice if you didn't do your research. What is the purpose of your discussion topic? [6][7] Durning was the ninth of ten children. Mr. His three brothers James (Roger) (1915-2000), Clifford (1916-1994),and Gerald Durning (born 1926), and his sister Frances (born 1919) survived to . I really think that this aspect of the massacre is well documented and available to every historian. Was Charles Durning at the Malmedy massacre? Can someone decode this? Fighting in the Battle of the Bulge, he and the rest of his company were captured and forced to march through a pine forest at Malmedy, the scene of an infamous massacre in which the Germans . With regards to the re-assignment of soldiers - while it is common knowledge that the replacement system funneled troops from unit to unit after being wounded, they were still moved to units with respect to their training. Mr. Durning told me he was in that group, but he and six other guys hid behind trees then escaped. Durning first got his start in guest appearances in early 1960's TV shows. They were fighting at Bitche, France, 200+ kilometers from Malmedy at the time of the Massacre. Charles Durning I wonder whether it might be able to get some rock solid sources on this. However, I just recently found out about his heroism during WWII which included being in the first wave on Omaha Beach at Normandy, being one of the few survivors of the Malmedy Massacre and being awarded the Silver Star and three Purple Hearts. But then again, Reynolds is hardly an authority on military history, so what he says about Charles Durning's war record is very trivial, even if the editor could find a reference. It took Durning 5 years after leaving the military to eventually make his way into acting. I added this piece of information: War Hero on Walk of Fame by Solvej Schou (Associated Press). Durning is not listed. He does not appear in the list of survivors. (1965), Pousse-Caf (1966), The Happy Time (1968), Indians (1969), That Championship Season (1972), In the Boom Boom Room (1973), The Au Pair Man (1973), Knock Knock (1976), Cat on a Hot Tin Roof (1990), Inherit the Wind (1996), The Gin Game (1997), and The Best Man (2000). He agreed to give us a day, I pulled together an amazing crew of industry veterans (including the very best cameraman I ever got the joy of working with they were all Democrats willing to donate their time for the campaign), we found a location north of L.A., and within a couple days were out there filming. [AlanM1(talk)] 12:37, 17 July 2013 (UTC). Captured during the Battle of the Bulge, Durning, was one of the few survivors of the Malmedy massacre when German troops opened fire on dozens of American prisoners. Chris Wiegand. 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Snyder, who polices and hustles professional con artists. The "confusion" regarding Mr. Durning's service is far more extensive than has been touched on here. In 2005, he was nominated for an Emmy Award for his portrayal of a Marine veteran in "Call of Silence," an episode in the television series NCIS, first broadcast November 23, 2004. Browse 1,069 charles durning stock photos and images available, or start a new search to explore more stock photos and images. I'm beginning to wonder about the veracity of Mr Durning's World War II story. the men in the pasture, and the other men who escaped the massacre because for one or other reason they were not at the crossroads when and where they were supposed to be when the massacre occured (I think for instance to a man the artillery observer battalion who had been left in Malmedy because he suddenly fell ill: he escaped the massacre but is not a survivor). - Mr. During supposedly told a close friend that the reason he was transferred to the Rangers was because he hit an officer, and was therefore given the choice of either Leavenworth or the Rangers. Durning stated he took part in the D-Day landings, and the article notes he was with 1st Infantry. I would hope that the editors of this page would at least mention that there is controversy surrounding the many versions of his wartime service and that official records are at odds with many points. Never has Mr. Durning's name been quoted in any single book I have read. Where the River Runs Black. It had much to do with the nature of the wounds, and the length and location of hospitalization. I must acknowledge that several websites clearly state that durning was at the Baugnez crossroad when the massacre occured. Best Answer. A few additional points. Both his war record and his acting career were mentioned. In some cases, you can go back and ask for a higher salary without jeopardizing your job, experts say. One one side they are based on the testimonies made by the American survivors, which must been seen as relations made by guys who had escaped to an almost promissed death, who were under shock, often wounded and who had some difficulties to make a coherent relation of the facts. Dog Day Afternoon (1975) -- (Movie Clip) They're Bringing In Your Wife Something of a spoiler, as writer Frank Pierson delivers one of the noted plot curve-balls of the decade in his fact-based screenplay, as cop Moretti (Charles Durning) tells hostage-holding bank robber Sonny (Al Pacino) that his wife has arrived, not expecting Chris Sarandon as Leon, in Sidney Lumet's Dog Day Afternoon, 1975. Please take a moment to review my edit. Durning was born in Highland Falls, New York, the . That same year, he won a Tony Award for his performance as Big Daddy in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. Although he displayed a passion for entertaining others, a high school teacher told him that he was talentless in art, language, and math and was better suited to working in an office. The American D-Day beach landings were under the command of US 1st Army, and the 1st Infantry was part of the First Army until - afaik - until the end of the war in Europe. Related:To create a personalized transition plan for yourself, and for transition guides and checklists, visit theMilitary.com Transition Center. NEW YORK (Reuters) - Charles Durning, a World War Two hero who became one of Hollywood's top character actors in films like "The Sting," "Tootsie" and "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas," has. Soldiers of Kampfgruppe Peiper summarily killed eighty Tue 25 Dec 2012 10.24 EST. Co. X176ADec. 18, 1944 - Dec. 31, 1945. A lot of that is released through acting. But it should be possible to ask them whether they have kept a record of this speach. And he said, that's good. This is four days after the start of the Battle of the Bulge and three days after the Malmedy Massacre.Oldbubblehead (talk) 06:39, 7 May 2014 (UTC). Durning is the only survivor of a unit that landed on Omaha Beach that June 6 in 1944. Charles Edward Durning (February 28, 1923 - December 24, 2012) was an American actor, with appearances in over 200 movies, television shows and plays. In any case, recovered soldiers were returned to units of their original branch. Zodiac. Military spouses are making a go of their dream jobs across a wide range of fields. Here's a key tactic that most job seekers overlook when attending a job or career fair: Stop at every table. And I said, yes, I am. I'm reluctant to cast any doubt on Mr. Durning's service, but the details are so vague and contradictory that they bear some examination. You can too, by following these critical steps. Asteriks (talk) 18:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC). The French document being discussed is not. Charles Durning's first job in the entertainment field was as an usher at a burlesque house. It didnt tell a devastating story the way the Obama commercial that I discussed a few weeks ago did. In Belgium he was stabbed in hand-to-hand combat with a German soldier, whom he bludgeoned to death with a rock. Thinking about how veterans of that era typically talk about the Army with regard to administrative matters only confirms this feeling that such records may be largely inaccurate. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. Not only has no text been provided from this document, but it sounds like the entire thing was cribbed from this very article. His three brothers James (known as Roger, 19152000), Clifford (19161994), and Gerald (19262000) and his sister Frances (19182006) survived to adulthood, but five sisters died from scarlet fever and smallpox as children. . Durning was honored with three Purple Hearts and a Silver Star. 1935). He describes in detail being captured by Germans and escaping, but NOT as part of the Malmedy events--not even at the same period of time. At least that last bit is what he told me, in detail. in the Battle of the Bulge, he and the rest of his company were captured and forced to march through a pine forest at Malmedy, the scene of an infamous massacre in . He was taken prisoner during the . However, I just recently found out about his heroism during WWII which included being in the first wave on Omaha Beach at Normandy, being one of the few survivors of the Malmedy Massacre and being awarded the Silver Star and three Purple Hearts. We would do three plays in Central Park for the summer. In 1979, he played Doc Hopper, a man who owns a frog leg restaurant and the main antagonist in The Muppet Movie. He was 89. "I had no money at all, and he [Joseph Papp] didn't pay much. Durning's best-known films include The Sting (1973), Dog Day Afternoon (1975), The Muppet Movie (1979), True Confessions (1981), Tootsie (1982), Dick Tracy (1990), and O Brother, Where Art Thou? That place that no one knows about horrifying things we keep secret. Durning's rugged early life provided ample material on which to base his later portrayals. I hope to get some kind of interview with him that can be published in order to cite these things, but with his current condition, I'm not sure it can be accomplished. Durning participated in various functions to honor American veterans, including serving as Chairman of the U.S. National Salute to Hospitalized Veterans. He looks VERY different than he did since O Brother, Where Art Thou?has he had some sort of stroke or heart attack or some kind of palsy that's affected his speech? Working through Hollywood contacts we heard that veteran character actor Charles Durning was a keen Democrat (even though his wife was a staunch Republican and literally tried to keep him from associating with us). So. Can we really exclude that the speach could have writen by a lazzy (or gullible) employee who could simply have made a copy/paste of what he had found on a website without making any check? Durning killed the German infantryman which became a particularly painful memory. 4. I tend to agree with David T Tokyo, but I'd feel better if the declaration appeared in a better source than the one we have, preferably an official one. Copy. In conclusion I still have strong doubts about this story and I think that one should check for more reliable sources before writing that Mr. Durning is a Malmedy massacre survivor. I don't seem to recall it being used when he first came to prominance. Stetsonharry (talk) 21:43, 22 February 2009 (UTC). May he Rest in Peace! They are not survivors although they escaped the massacre. And the 20-plus years you've spent in uniform mean you have a highly sought-after skill set in the civilian world. At that time,in my pre-understanding of conversations I had with his spouse, Mr. Durning did not like to discuss his involvement in the landing at Omaha Beach that fateful day with The 1st. ", The Charles Durning Collection is held at the Academy Film Archive. Then came The Malmedy Massacre which took place on December 17, 1944 by a unit that was a part of the 1st SS Panzer Division . The problem here is that this regiment arrived in the ETO very late (mid-March 45), and was plugged into the then-reconstituting 106th Infantry Division to replace one of the two regiments destroyed during the Bulge. He also points out that During's records only mention Silver Star, not Silever Star Medal. [3][17], On December 27, 2012, Broadway theaters dimmed their lights to honor him. #VeteranOfTheDay Army Veteran Charles Durning - VA News Today's #VeteranOfTheDay is Army Veteran Charles Durning, who served as an infantryman during World War II and later became a prolific actor. He interviewed over 200 surviving P.O.W.s. Blacks later book, The Battalion: The Dramatic Story of the 2nd Ranger Battalion goes into more detail about the 2nd Ranger Battalion. France honors Charles Durning . He was part of the landing forces at Normandy during the initial invasion of France by Allied forces. Durning's unit guarded German POW's in Krippe, Germany until after VE Day, June 23, 1945. It's hard to say for certain, but as many as 50 Americans were able to escape, including Charles Durning, Malmedy-Massacre-survivor-turned-character-actor after World War II. 6. Charles Durning served his country with honor and with great personal sacrifice. 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( M. In that respect I would draw you attention to the fact that one should make a distinction between the survivors, i.e. And the Rangers were not a dumping ground for disciplinary problems. We don't have to resolve the discrepancies, but we should at least note them. It's right at the beginning of the movie. But while I don't know Durning and have only met him once, he is close with several close friends of mine, and I asked them to ask him about the Malmedy thing. It isn't clear if he were a replacement en route to a line unit, or a member of the replacement detachment's cadre when he was wounded in Normandy on 15 Jun (the initial replacement detachments were displacing to operate from Normandy during this same week). Durning served as a soldier in World War II, during which he was awarded a Silver Star, three Purple Heart medals, and a Good Conduct Medal. Durning's memorable roles included the Oscar-winning The Sting (1973) and crime drama Dog Day Afternoon (1975), along with the . He was the son of Louise (ne Leonard; 18941982), a laundress at West Point, and James E. Durning (1883 c. Tootsie. The Service Stars (or campaign stars or battle stars) came in bronze or silver. We'll never know the whole story of his war years.I used to hear the difference between a "sea story" and a fairy tale was a fairy . Whether true or not, the statements of the French Consul would not be admissible in any U.S. civilian or military court since they do not satisfy either the Best Evidence rule or the Hearsay rule. We owe him a debt of gratitude as we do the many other World War II veterans who served alongside him. Prior to appearing in the Burt Reynolds's TV series, Evening Shade, as the town doctor Harlan Eldridge (19901994), Durning appeared with Reynolds in five films, beginning with 1979's Starting Over, followed by 1981's Sharky's Machine, 1982's Best Little Whorehouse in Texas, 1985's Stick and 1999's Hostage Hotel. He was an infantryman,. Again, am reluctant to cast aspersions, but not many men advertise their valor awards, but refuse to clearly state what units they served in. It contains a roster, list of decorations awarded, and some information on landing craft assignments. Sheesh. A few words of respect for Charles Durning who died on Monday at age 89. But interestingly, in the detailed Wikipedia discussion of Malmady, they conclude that Durning was not a part of the event. --rogerd (talk) 02:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC), I had the priviledge and honor to meet Charles Durning some years ago, when I was on The Los Angeles St. Patrick's Day Committee, and we made him "Grand Marshall" for the parade in Hollywood. On par with his multitude of feature film roles, Durning has always been in high demand on television and has guest starred in Everybody Loves Raymond (1996), Monk (2002) and Rescue Me (2004). The Battle of the Bulge started on 16 Dec 44, and the Malmedy massacre happened on 17 Dec 44. There tends to be a correlation between the quality of character actors and how big of a character they are themselves. Early life. In 2010, the two filed an official Declaration of Separation. Again, Durning is not listed. Depot/ Repl. He appeared in John Frankenheimer's I Walk the Line (1970) starring Gregory Peck, and three Brian De Palma movies: Hi, Mom! But, there is no way Durning is the second most decorated hero of WWII, see Audie Murphy and Matt Urban. The biggest joy of the experience was getting to spend the day chatting with Mr. Durning. First, no one doubts he was at D-Day and the Battle of the Bulge, but he also told me he was there at Malmady. Kaspazes talk 13:00, 29 December 2006 (UTC), User:Monkeyzpop has made an edit to this article about some statement that Burt Reynolds supposedly made on a TV show, that he is disputing. - While many individual service records were indeed destroyed by fire, the General Orders which issued Silver Stars were stored at other locations - such as in the unit files - that have been archived at other facilities. 68.124.153.86 (talk) 00:34, 30 April 2008 (UTC) Gerard, Other than his wartime experiences, the article makes no mention of Charles Durning's career pre 1973. [18] The Huffington Post compared the two men, calling them "character actor titans".[19]. And then I flash back to Kathy Martin, the Kansas School Board Member in Flock of Dodos, who said shes comfortable believing Washington was our first President because people were there to see that, but not comfortable believing fossils could be millions of years old because nobody was actually alive that saw a lungfish crawl out of the water. As if eye witness accounts were more credible than science. Mr. Steve Karras, among other researchers, has accessed primary sources such as Durnings discharge papers, his medical records, unit personnel rosters and morning reports, Army General Orders, and other records, as well as secondary sources such as unit official histories, to assemble an accurate record of Durnings military experiences. Durning was drafted into the U.S. Army just in time to fight in World War II. The ceremony took place in Los Angeles and the presenter was Philippe Larrieu, Consul General of France. Charles Durnings significant decorations include the . The chest wound which earned him the Purple Heart prompted his evacuation to the United States for recovery where he spent the remainder of his time with the Army. The inability of anyone, to include his family, to produce these General Orders, or even cite the GO#, must arouse curiosity, to put it mildly. Kampfgruppe Peiper immediately began firing upon Battery B, sending the Americans into a panic. Today's #VeteranOfTheDay is Army Veteran Charles Durning, who served as an infantryman during World War II and later became a prolific actor. In March 1945, Durning was moving into Germany with the 398th Infantry Regiment when he took a bullet to the chest. television commercial for the Kerry campaign, Obama commercial that I discussed a few weeks ago. 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Warren Kozak writes in the Wall Street Journal, "The Real Rules of War," Dec. 23, that his father, who survived the Battle of the Bulge, told him that for two weeks . I have put some editing only text above the section warning editors not to edit that area. Durning began his career in 1951. he and the rest of his company were captured and forced to march through a pine forest at Malmedy, the . Is it him, or someone who really looks like him? And even though the obituaries now are saying he didnt like to talk about his war experiences, he shared everything with me. Alfred "Ed Moch" Cota. While Oldbubblehead's research apparently verifies the Silver Star, the issue will not be put to bed until the GO (with its citation extract) can be located. Durning won the Los Angeles Drama Critics Circle Award for his powerful performance in The Westwood Playhouse's 1977 production of David Rabe's Streamers. His father was an Irish immigrant and his mother was of Irish descent. at Frances (disambiguation). The net result was a commercial that was okay. In the past I've seen folks read an entry that said 'Bronze SS'and interpret it as the man earned both a Bronze Star Medal and a Silver Star Medal, when in fact it just denoted a single bronze Service Star for a campaign ribbon.98.255.89.22 (talk) 00:56, 12 July 2013 (UTC). Michael Dorosh 14:48, 21 August 2006 (UTC), An editor made this edit that accuses Durning of exaggerating his military record. Total mustering out pay was $300 $100 was paid at the time. Go for it - its obviously a field of study that you enjoy and you have the chance to make your name. Drafted at age 21, he was first assigned as a rifleman with the 398th Infantry Regiment, and later served overseas with the 3rd Army Support troops and the 386th Anti-aircraft Artillery (AAA) Battalion. Part of the reason he was willing to talk may have been because I told him some of my fathers war experiences from the Bataan Death March in the Philippines. He was 89. After the offensive, Durning received his second Purple Heart. Howell's threads since he came on the old Shooters site before it closed down and he has been a lightning rod from day one. - After being wounded in Normandy, Mr. Durning was declared fit for duty on 6 Dec and transferred to the 10th Replacement Depot (in England) on 12 Dec 44. I realize that one will oppose the statement of the French consul. His wife is Mary Ann Amelio (1974 - 24 December 2012) ( his death), Carole Doughty (27 June 1959 - 1972) ( divorced) ( 3 children) I'm guessing the latter was in response to Durning wanting to clarify things in the time leading up to his award from the French on 22 April. I'd be interested to learn how he came into show business - his turn in "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas" shows him to be a gifted dancer. Charles Durning was a boxer, ice-cream seller and dance instructor before establishing himself as an actor. There were a few border states where mercury pollution in popular waterways was a serious issue, so the environmental folks in the Kerry campaign were eager to associate him with the efforts to combat mercury pollution. Don't know whether you have seen this discussion of Mr. Durning's service: That at least would acknowledge the elephant in the room. The Pursuit of Happiness. During the German attack, Durning reported that a particularly young soldier charged him, but Durning couldnt bring himself to fire. Charles Durning, a Tony Award-winning actor whose prolific work in films and television included supporting roles in the classic comedy "Tootsie" and the TV sitcom "Evening Shade," died Monday.. Nightmares are indeed an indicator of PTSD, but not everyone who has experienced stress or has nightmares is suffering from a "disorder". David T Tokyo (talk) 05:40, 15 October 2008 (UTC), This is a major hole in the article. Before jumping into your new job all gung-ho, you would do yourself a great disservice if you didn't do your research. What is the purpose of your discussion topic? [6][7] Durning was the ninth of ten children. Mr. His three brothers James (Roger) (1915-2000), Clifford (1916-1994),and Gerald Durning (born 1926), and his sister Frances (born 1919) survived to . I really think that this aspect of the massacre is well documented and available to every historian. Was Charles Durning at the Malmedy massacre? Can someone decode this? Fighting in the Battle of the Bulge, he and the rest of his company were captured and forced to march through a pine forest at Malmedy, the scene of an infamous massacre in which the Germans . With regards to the re-assignment of soldiers - while it is common knowledge that the replacement system funneled troops from unit to unit after being wounded, they were still moved to units with respect to their training. Mr. Durning told me he was in that group, but he and six other guys hid behind trees then escaped. Durning first got his start in guest appearances in early 1960's TV shows. They were fighting at Bitche, France, 200+ kilometers from Malmedy at the time of the Massacre. Charles Durning I wonder whether it might be able to get some rock solid sources on this. However, I just recently found out about his heroism during WWII which included being in the first wave on Omaha Beach at Normandy, being one of the few survivors of the Malmedy Massacre and being awarded the Silver Star and three Purple Hearts. But then again, Reynolds is hardly an authority on military history, so what he says about Charles Durning's war record is very trivial, even if the editor could find a reference. It took Durning 5 years after leaving the military to eventually make his way into acting. I added this piece of information: War Hero on Walk of Fame by Solvej Schou (Associated Press). Durning is not listed. He does not appear in the list of survivors. (1965), Pousse-Caf (1966), The Happy Time (1968), Indians (1969), That Championship Season (1972), In the Boom Boom Room (1973), The Au Pair Man (1973), Knock Knock (1976), Cat on a Hot Tin Roof (1990), Inherit the Wind (1996), The Gin Game (1997), and The Best Man (2000). He agreed to give us a day, I pulled together an amazing crew of industry veterans (including the very best cameraman I ever got the joy of working with they were all Democrats willing to donate their time for the campaign), we found a location north of L.A., and within a couple days were out there filming. [AlanM1(talk)] 12:37, 17 July 2013 (UTC). Captured during the Battle of the Bulge, Durning, was one of the few survivors of the Malmedy massacre when German troops opened fire on dozens of American prisoners. Chris Wiegand. 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Snyder, who polices and hustles professional con artists. The "confusion" regarding Mr. Durning's service is far more extensive than has been touched on here. In 2005, he was nominated for an Emmy Award for his portrayal of a Marine veteran in "Call of Silence," an episode in the television series NCIS, first broadcast November 23, 2004. Browse 1,069 charles durning stock photos and images available, or start a new search to explore more stock photos and images. I'm beginning to wonder about the veracity of Mr Durning's World War II story. the men in the pasture, and the other men who escaped the massacre because for one or other reason they were not at the crossroads when and where they were supposed to be when the massacre occured (I think for instance to a man the artillery observer battalion who had been left in Malmedy because he suddenly fell ill: he escaped the massacre but is not a survivor). - Mr. During supposedly told a close friend that the reason he was transferred to the Rangers was because he hit an officer, and was therefore given the choice of either Leavenworth or the Rangers. Durning stated he took part in the D-Day landings, and the article notes he was with 1st Infantry. I would hope that the editors of this page would at least mention that there is controversy surrounding the many versions of his wartime service and that official records are at odds with many points. Never has Mr. Durning's name been quoted in any single book I have read. Where the River Runs Black. It had much to do with the nature of the wounds, and the length and location of hospitalization. I must acknowledge that several websites clearly state that durning was at the Baugnez crossroad when the massacre occured. Best Answer. A few additional points. Both his war record and his acting career were mentioned. In some cases, you can go back and ask for a higher salary without jeopardizing your job, experts say. One one side they are based on the testimonies made by the American survivors, which must been seen as relations made by guys who had escaped to an almost promissed death, who were under shock, often wounded and who had some difficulties to make a coherent relation of the facts. Dog Day Afternoon (1975) -- (Movie Clip) They're Bringing In Your Wife Something of a spoiler, as writer Frank Pierson delivers one of the noted plot curve-balls of the decade in his fact-based screenplay, as cop Moretti (Charles Durning) tells hostage-holding bank robber Sonny (Al Pacino) that his wife has arrived, not expecting Chris Sarandon as Leon, in Sidney Lumet's Dog Day Afternoon, 1975. Please take a moment to review my edit. Durning was born in Highland Falls, New York, the . That same year, he won a Tony Award for his performance as Big Daddy in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. Although he displayed a passion for entertaining others, a high school teacher told him that he was talentless in art, language, and math and was better suited to working in an office. The American D-Day beach landings were under the command of US 1st Army, and the 1st Infantry was part of the First Army until - afaik - until the end of the war in Europe. Related:To create a personalized transition plan for yourself, and for transition guides and checklists, visit theMilitary.com Transition Center. NEW YORK (Reuters) - Charles Durning, a World War Two hero who became one of Hollywood's top character actors in films like "The Sting," "Tootsie" and "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas," has. Soldiers of Kampfgruppe Peiper summarily killed eighty Tue 25 Dec 2012 10.24 EST. Co. X176ADec. 18, 1944 - Dec. 31, 1945. A lot of that is released through acting. But it should be possible to ask them whether they have kept a record of this speach. And he said, that's good. This is four days after the start of the Battle of the Bulge and three days after the Malmedy Massacre.Oldbubblehead (talk) 06:39, 7 May 2014 (UTC). Durning is the only survivor of a unit that landed on Omaha Beach that June 6 in 1944. Charles Edward Durning (February 28, 1923 - December 24, 2012) was an American actor, with appearances in over 200 movies, television shows and plays. In any case, recovered soldiers were returned to units of their original branch. Zodiac. Military spouses are making a go of their dream jobs across a wide range of fields. Here's a key tactic that most job seekers overlook when attending a job or career fair: Stop at every table. And I said, yes, I am. I'm reluctant to cast any doubt on Mr. Durning's service, but the details are so vague and contradictory that they bear some examination. You can too, by following these critical steps. Asteriks (talk) 18:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC). The French document being discussed is not. Charles Durning's first job in the entertainment field was as an usher at a burlesque house. It didnt tell a devastating story the way the Obama commercial that I discussed a few weeks ago did. In Belgium he was stabbed in hand-to-hand combat with a German soldier, whom he bludgeoned to death with a rock. Thinking about how veterans of that era typically talk about the Army with regard to administrative matters only confirms this feeling that such records may be largely inaccurate. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. Not only has no text been provided from this document, but it sounds like the entire thing was cribbed from this very article. His three brothers James (known as Roger, 19152000), Clifford (19161994), and Gerald (19262000) and his sister Frances (19182006) survived to adulthood, but five sisters died from scarlet fever and smallpox as children. . Durning was honored with three Purple Hearts and a Silver Star. 1935). He describes in detail being captured by Germans and escaping, but NOT as part of the Malmedy events--not even at the same period of time. At least that last bit is what he told me, in detail. in the Battle of the Bulge, he and the rest of his company were captured and forced to march through a pine forest at Malmedy, the scene of an infamous massacre in . He was taken prisoner during the . However, I just recently found out about his heroism during WWII which included being in the first wave on Omaha Beach at Normandy, being one of the few survivors of the Malmedy Massacre and being awarded the Silver Star and three Purple Hearts. We would do three plays in Central Park for the summer. In 1979, he played Doc Hopper, a man who owns a frog leg restaurant and the main antagonist in The Muppet Movie. He was 89. "I had no money at all, and he [Joseph Papp] didn't pay much. Durning's best-known films include The Sting (1973), Dog Day Afternoon (1975), The Muppet Movie (1979), True Confessions (1981), Tootsie (1982), Dick Tracy (1990), and O Brother, Where Art Thou? That place that no one knows about horrifying things we keep secret. Durning's rugged early life provided ample material on which to base his later portrayals. I hope to get some kind of interview with him that can be published in order to cite these things, but with his current condition, I'm not sure it can be accomplished. Durning participated in various functions to honor American veterans, including serving as Chairman of the U.S. National Salute to Hospitalized Veterans. He looks VERY different than he did since O Brother, Where Art Thou?has he had some sort of stroke or heart attack or some kind of palsy that's affected his speech? Working through Hollywood contacts we heard that veteran character actor Charles Durning was a keen Democrat (even though his wife was a staunch Republican and literally tried to keep him from associating with us). So. Can we really exclude that the speach could have writen by a lazzy (or gullible) employee who could simply have made a copy/paste of what he had found on a website without making any check? Durning killed the German infantryman which became a particularly painful memory. 4. I tend to agree with David T Tokyo, but I'd feel better if the declaration appeared in a better source than the one we have, preferably an official one. Copy. In conclusion I still have strong doubts about this story and I think that one should check for more reliable sources before writing that Mr. Durning is a Malmedy massacre survivor. I don't seem to recall it being used when he first came to prominance. Stetsonharry (talk) 21:43, 22 February 2009 (UTC). May he Rest in Peace! They are not survivors although they escaped the massacre. And the 20-plus years you've spent in uniform mean you have a highly sought-after skill set in the civilian world. At that time,in my pre-understanding of conversations I had with his spouse, Mr. Durning did not like to discuss his involvement in the landing at Omaha Beach that fateful day with The 1st. ", The Charles Durning Collection is held at the Academy Film Archive. Then came The Malmedy Massacre which took place on December 17, 1944 by a unit that was a part of the 1st SS Panzer Division . The problem here is that this regiment arrived in the ETO very late (mid-March 45), and was plugged into the then-reconstituting 106th Infantry Division to replace one of the two regiments destroyed during the Bulge. He also points out that During's records only mention Silver Star, not Silever Star Medal. [3][17], On December 27, 2012, Broadway theaters dimmed their lights to honor him. #VeteranOfTheDay Army Veteran Charles Durning - VA News Today's #VeteranOfTheDay is Army Veteran Charles Durning, who served as an infantryman during World War II and later became a prolific actor. He interviewed over 200 surviving P.O.W.s. Blacks later book, The Battalion: The Dramatic Story of the 2nd Ranger Battalion goes into more detail about the 2nd Ranger Battalion. France honors Charles Durning . He was part of the landing forces at Normandy during the initial invasion of France by Allied forces. Durning's unit guarded German POW's in Krippe, Germany until after VE Day, June 23, 1945. It's hard to say for certain, but as many as 50 Americans were able to escape, including Charles Durning, Malmedy-Massacre-survivor-turned-character-actor after World War II. 6. Charles Durning served his country with honor and with great personal sacrifice. 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