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Then we mixed a ratio of 2 parts mortar to 1 part pea gravel. Jeff. Or pull up some layer of sand and put screening in? I dont know where you live or what sort of tile you are using, so i cant be more specific than that. If the foundation is nominal, then there may be shifting. And as it is not outside, we are not getting natural rain/drizzle/snow which might more effectively harden up the joint areas. Come to think of it, one of the private residences in Colonial Williamsburg has a stabilized pea gravel front walk. Install another 46 tons of gravel, this time the appropriate 3/4 minus, angular crushed stone with fines. Get complete site access to expert advice, how-to videos, Code Check, and more, plus the print magazine. It would compact into a pretty hard surface over time. Polymeric sand is generally intended for dry laid paver applications. Science demands this of me. But yeah, Id try and d-limonene it, maybe try a careful pass with a pressure washer. Other times I go with a crumbly-dry mix. I can say without reservation that you should repair the flagstone patio that you haveand never replace it with stamped concrete. Not a big fan of waterproofing goop being sprayed into stone screenings either. This is hard for the dogs to walk on (sharp edges). I really liked the overall performance of Techniseal HP2 Polymetric sand; so I went with this as the final selection. Either way, best of luck to you on your flagstone repair! It depends on where you live. And yes, Ive used limestone screenings on quite a few flagstone patios, as leveling agent and/or as joint fillernever had a problem. Thanks again! Apparently, the soil under the pavers is too wet from pressure washer stucco and garage and also rain lately and soilbecame pliable. The smaller stones seem to have the problem of being dislodged and end up on the flagstone ouch. Thank you Devin! Ive seen people do this where the joints were significantly larger than the size which you described as acceptable. What do you suggest for front stair edges to prevent the stone from being tippy? The look is great, however, it is too soft for their liking. I was looking for an explanation of red dust. Cracks will form. Material cost is more or less of no importance so if decomposed granite would work better or look better than other stone dust I would use it. In the shady area moss will grow in the screenings, in the sunny area, maybe not so much. Seen it before and everyones gift is unique. Now, my joints were set tight, maybe half inch widewider joints than that might be an issue. This includes gator dust and any other type or brand of polysand. Quikrete Assorted All-Purpose Gravel 50 lb. I am considering adding about 5 to 10 tons of fines to firm things up a bit, hoping that the smaller particles will help lock the larger stones in place. Oh and 5. the environment.This stuff is not good for our eco system, our planet, beloved mama earth. I cant say too much about stabilized decomposed granite. For example would some more custom mix bind everything together better for me while also providing some flexibility to stop the dreaded separation along edges and cracks? Stone would have to be of appropriate thickness, outdoor adhesives/exterior thinset used for the ornaments. Shove some stuff under there. Check out http://www.stepables.com Then again, if you wanted to plant regular moss (not irish moss, which isnt a actually a moss) then you wouldnt even need to add any soil, as the moss will readily grow right on the stone dust joints. Hello Devin, thank you for the very informative article. Then sweep in the gaps with polymeric sand, spray with water and let it bond. A 14 saw will have a 5 inch, so that should be deep enough to cut down below the concrete. Great advice and beautiful work around the pool.. thank you! Im 61 and have hauled a TON of this slate. (Note: I am not a professional, but love to DYI landscape). I thought I was the only one because the rookies and the guys who just want the money sell it like its some kind of elixir. water@tramfloc.com; Fax 480-383-6895; Call us! Ive used products before where you actually add a binder to the gravel. Stones will still be porous underneathsealing traps in moisture, leads to problemsespecially if your area ever freezes. I live in Seattle in case that is important. Quarries will sell it by the ton or by the yard, but a masonry supply place will usually let you fill a five-gallon bucket. Personally, my preference is to merely lay larger stone along the edge of the patiohave all of your edge flagstones, large. It appears that the base is a sand mixture, not concrete. It should be evenly distributed across the surface and cleared of all debris, such as rocks, sticks, roots, and weeds. Push down on it, one corner of the stone at a time. 2.5 inches over a ten foot span will be enough, provided there are no major dips. Privacy Policy. Even after several rains and power washing them, it is prevalent. they were sagging, and needed to be re-done, so why not try to re-purpose them into a patio for our growing family. Scroll down to the heading that says How to install stone dust in between your flagstones. Great article and Q&As! First of all know that at this point, any means to clean off the stones will likely destroy the joints that youve installed. ( said with a Japanese accent):). You excavate the desired area for your walkway or driveway to about one inch and fill it to the top with pea gravel. The location is climate type 9b, Northern California. My dry laid process is described here. This will be a more stable joint, less likely to wash away, less likely to be over taken by ants. Even less worried about it, if your area does not freeze during the winter. Repoint with Masons mortargrout is for tile work, indoors. Set aside ample time for the project, haste makes waste. Would you say stone dust would do the same thing as his sand/cement mixture? Privacy Policy. Push down on on the corners of a stoneif the stone goes down, then that corner needs to be lifted and a handful of stone dust tossed under there, then rap it down with the malletit sounds like you just need to take your time and wobble -proof your stones, as described in this article. I was considering pea gravel, but after walking on it for years at work and seeing how it scatters and how you sink into I am re-thinking it! It looses its gravel texture, it just ceases to be gravel.looking like a cross between a rice crispy teat and black-topbut looking nothing like a gravel walkway. Tell a friend and stuff. Spread it all over and hosed it down into cracks. Here in NE Ohio, limestone dust is all that is readily available. Screenings are not the same as polymeric sand. 2. Ochre stone is actually a byproduct of ochre mining, it's kind of like brown crusher run. Thank you for the responses. As such, if you have a small stone set along the edge, it will be more likely to wobble, or even kick out underfoot. Travertine fits together so tight, I think stone dust would be too big. I just put down some pea gravel around my fire pit area and now anytime someone walks on it the gravel gets into the mulch and all over. Place the pea gravel on top of the concrete mix and level it out with the trowel. If not then feel free to contact me via emailI know a guy who is awesome at this type of work! Expect to be topping off the stone dust trenches a couple times a year, first year or 2. All the flagstone is stable and still level. What is the best way to get the cracks between the flagstones sealed? Just going to do a small area to see if it compacts. Having said all that, I still prefer to fit pattern flagstone more tightly, quarter inch to eighth an inchon a recent 400 square foot patio that we built we had eighth inch gaps.. The slab is about four inches thick so concrete ran under the wood dividers and there is an irregular floor to my trenches. It is just what I was after and while the pea gravel has the "look" it does not have the stability. Devin, Before my enlightenment my aha! 3. But I couldn't find it in Utah, and I also read that it sticks to your shoes and becomes a sanding agent if you have wood floors, which I do. Some people try and solve this problem with plastic edging. Other methods. Step 2 - Install the Base. Stone dust getting kicked out of the joints may be a bit of a concernbut I would fill with stone dust, hose down, and then top it off. I then took a blower and carefully blew away the very small amount of dust that accumulated on the open surface of the flagstone as a result of the vibrating process. Hi Devin I have a bunch of slate (and some stone) paths, patios and stairways, a lot of which I have built, and while they are largely stable the crushed stone I used in the joints (which matches the slates) sometimes washes out of the steeper areas especially on the two long stair paths. Once that was done, we cleaned off the blocks. -Many other ground covers to choose from. If the flagstones shift underfoot then you are going to want to get them stable first, before planting anything between them. Read that againstone dust settling down in-between flagstone is a GOOD thing. and do you ask for just that (Stone dust or screenings)? Great article Devin, We have large slabs of Indiana ledge rock some as big as 30 sf and 4 inch thick around our pool laid with 1/4 inch tolerance laid on sand with sand between the stones sme have shift and opened gaps and tilted Its impossible to fix without big machines so I am planning just to stabilize it Screenings the best? Ive created a 15 x 15 flagstone patio using 1.5-2.5 mostly flat, some irregular stones. Thx, I do phone/email consultations for $93 an hour. Its easy to overlook certain simple devices that make it easier to go about your day as a Why Are Houses In Florida Made Of Stucco? moment ie; finding this website, we had just completed installation of a flagstone patio upon which the contractor used hundreds of bags of polymeric dust (Gator Dust). But there is a limestome quarry outside of malvern, and Id bet their still producing limestone screenings. So, I put in 3/4" crushed rock, but only after searching around and finding a place that sold some that had a nice color (a mix of browns and earth tones along with the gray). If you set your flagstones upon a gravel foundation/on a bed of sand or stone dustthen fill your joints with stone dust. I love the back and forth in the comments section. and our Id love to find something natural in a deep blu to go with the bluestone. You need a foundation of compacted road base gravel. Thank you again and Best Regards! It got cut off mid-sentence and Id hate to miss anything important. Each unit of our concrete block is approximately 3,000 lb in weight and 5' x 2'-5" x 2'-6" in dimensions. Results may varypolymeric sand is not always easy to fix.. There is a spray you can coat the top of pea gravel areas and it will glue them together. Properly installed, rain washing the decomposed granite out from in between the flagstones should not be a problem. I have an Arizona flagstone patio & sidewalk with mortar over concrete pad and live in Colorado. Good luck! I was wondering how best to address a potential problem as winter is approaching. Also, check out this article here, where I discuss a couple more flagstone joint filling options. Its liquid plastic, alright. Therefore I very carefully applied the poly sand directly into the joints using a grout bag. Tree limbs, leaves and mud can end up on the driveway. The sales guy who sold the glue mess to the general contractor (yes, I subbed, once upon a time!) I just completed a four month long project laying 800 sf of irregular Pennsylvania Blue flagstone (variable thickness stone of 1.5 to 2.25 inches think); at our house in Seattle, WA. To decrease the gravel carried away by any runoff, you can also add drainage trenches to your pea gravel installation. In bucks county you can get red screeningsblooming glen quarry, outside of Quakertown. The base is stone dust, by the way, not sand. Where can I buy stone dust? Further, the stone dust I have seen is just the flour part of the DG that you describe using, without any of the 1/8 particles. It can be used in a pinch if your setting bed is very thin - like 1/4 to 1/2" inch and preferably with a tad bit of a binder sifted in to keep the particles from shifting. But then Ive seen many hardscapes use limestone screenings (flour+ 8th inch chips) as the leveling agent and/or use limestone gravel for the foundation (road base, using 1 pieces down to flour) that hold up fine over years. Well, if the foundation and pitch all seem decent, then Id simply suggest removing the gator dust and replacing with stone dust. Were halfway through a DIY of flagstone on the side of our driveway. Compare. We need to replace the joints and extend the patio 10 feet. Compact the pavers and gravel again with a heavy-duty roller or by driving a vehicle over the area. But d-limonene does dissolve a few types of plastic, so I am thinking that d-limonene with a wire-brush just might do the trick. Incorporating the gravel into the soil seems to have improved the drainage, too. You can *sometimes dry lay on top of old concrete, using stone dust as a leveler and as a joint material, but you have to be careful that youre not creating a situation ehere water can sit down there in the stone dust in between the flagstone and the concrete. 8-12 of compacted 21AA limestone (well compacted), decomposed granite and then filled the joints with decomposed granite. Never seal grave level exterior stone. I have had a flagstone patio installed over 10 years ago. Excellent advice! The first option that I gave will not keep 100 percent of the gravel in placebut most of it, yesand if you remember to use modified gravel, gravel with smaller chips and stone dust in it, then it should feel pretty sturdy underfoot. Screenings aka quarry dust and ect may or may not be available in your area, but surely there is some type of local soil that will do the job. Theres environmental impact happening. First of all, I build flagstone pathways, not DG. If an area is Shady or damp then sometimes that can cause thin algae growth that can make flagstones look dirty. Unfortunately it's about 3" deep! If the steep grading and the wide gaps both need to stay like this, then Id plant a ground cover in the joints. We did buy poly sand, but can exchange it for the screening. Is there a liquid or possible caulking that could be used in this type of situation? If your patio is built upon a concrete foundation then you want to repair the joints with mortar. (stabilizing the bed to lay on?) Free Store Pickup Today. What is the best order to correct an incompleted project gone awry? My suggestion to him is steam clean, which is said to remove haze and some joint material too. You are building a flagstone patiojust use stone. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The article above addresses flagstone joints in a dry laid applicationwith a gravel foundation. The joints are too wide. Your thoughts please? Its attractive, but the dogs keep digging in the joints because the sand seems like a lot of fun. If you do this, please keep me updated, let me know how it works. Resulted in ugly haze. Also, are their any loose flagstones? hi, I just finished building a house with permeable driveway. Theres also some mention of stabilized decomposed granite. Screenings are crushed stone. What do you suggest using in the joints of a Limestone walkway (in NY)? A gap much wider than half an inch will become a minor puddle spotand that water will go down into the ground. The other thing to watch for, as far as separation between your mortar joint and the edge of your flagstoneis getting everything clean. *If you are in a place that never gets below freezing, then these recommendations are less crucial. It became the neighborhood cat litter box yuck! Any idea how to remove the haze from the pavers? Im glad I read this and plan to steer well clear of polymeric sand. A lifting eye present on the top of . YES, its supposed to be fun and tiringyoure doing it right! The two terms are often used interchangeably, but the two products should not be used interchangeably. PDF for Aggregates/Sand & Gravel Washing Polymer Additions. Ahhh, it is grande indeed. have never once needed to replace a stone, and its maybe 800 sq ft flagstone, all told. Hello, I apologize if this has already been answered. But the real complaint that I have against this gravel glue epoxy whatever were talking about, the real complaint is that it just does not look good. Boil a pot of water, to kill weeds. Get a product called gravel lok or a pebble binder product use them a lot they work great. Sorry for the delayed responseIve been busy finishing up with the years work before the winter sets in. Yes, whenever you grind out mortar joints between flagstone, I pretty much expect a stone or two to pop up lose. Im trying to keep my foundation dry on north side of home. Sorry for the type Os..obviously Flagstone and Stone Dust sorry. If it still collects lots of water, its a good indicator that you need to dig a drainage trench. Thanks, I added your sculpture to my Facebook timeline nice work! All rain is during the winter months. Like on your clothes or something. Only now did I realize that I neglect to answer. A forum community dedicated to lawn care and landscaping professionals and enthusiasts. This second method doesnt clean up quite as easily as the powdery-dry method. Gaps are approxly one inch. A friend recommended polymeric stone dust so I did a search. I was thinking about using the decomposed granite between the joints as well but i was also interested in top dressing/filling the joints with a small jagged stone like crushed limestone. Lay an inch of 1/4 minus (stone dust, oathway fines, DG) over this, screed out nice and level, hose down ( on the shower setting, dont soak) then tamp. Clean the joint of all dust and debri. Then gently give it a few taps with a mallet to seat it into place. Small voids may be left underneath your paving unitsespecially if you are using irregular natural stone. Now in my irregular natural shaped flagstone patio work I will usually leave gaps averaging about three quarters of an inch wide. They say I mixed the cement wr. Im thinking you could take a concrete saw and just run one cut down the middle of the trench. Greetings! Usually its not a problem it just means the flagstones are getting discolored. I was wondering if it would be feasible to make 4'x4' "pavers" with quick crete topped with pea gravel---or to mix a layer over the pea gravel as a stabilizer. I already clear out a 15 X 15 for my back patio. So the stones just didnt get seated properly. Scrub with the broom a bitthen hose off. Find someone who specializes in dry laid flagstone work. Fill the joints with stone dust/aka screenings, decomposed granite, ectthe same stuff you should use to level the stones out with. I cant find anyone who sells decomposed granite. I used screenings to fill in between the joints. Is there another name for dg/screenings? It's been over 5 years, and still doing good, although I've had to add a few bags of mulch here and there. My husband who is a builder always goes to the product, which i always talk him out of, but cement is one that I cant seem to stop him from. Deep bow of thanks for all of the wisdom youve shared here with your article and the comment section. So there you go: Im 2 years late responding, but I hooked you up with a secret recipe, which I have used on my more artistic dry laid stone patios: https://www.devineescapes.com/artistic-flagstone-patios/. Most polymeric sand manufacturers offer at least two colors that match 95% of the interlocking pavers on the marketplace today: tan and grey. Awesome, youre welcome and Im glad to help. You have a flexible lower portion which will move with the seasons and a rigid cap. Is this stone in question local, or otherwise desireable to you? Simple, right? Wow, thats frustrating. I have thought of using the polymeric sand to keep out both as much as possible. I do not recommend paver setits basically polymeric sand, and I do not like polymeric sand with flagstone. I have tried poly sand (with the correct amts of watering)but find that the sand forms a crust, other areas may be soft and mushy, and if I dig down it is not solid. I would like to fill the joint of the flagstone patio with decomposed granite so I can match the color somewhat. Pea gravel is round and tends to roll, so laying down a base layer of a more coarse, angular rock can help stabilize the pea gravel. Make sure the patio is pitched hard enough. 87880917 4 yr. ago. A wire-brush plus a lot of elbow grease will often remove much of the hazewill rarely get it all though. Thank you for your devotion to this subject. STone flour, such a fine dust that dampening it somewhat, sorta binds it up. The joint are fairly wide 1 to 2.5 average, and he even left some 3-6 areas along the perimeter walls. Ditto what had been said here about using pea gravel. these fines, when dampened, actually do bind up with the larger chips, becoming semi-solid. You also have to be very careful that the joint is filled all the way, and also make sure that there is no material left on top of the paving units, before you hose down. No freeze-thaw issues. Ill get on it. Is it worth bothering with or will the gravel do the job itself? My front walk is flag stone set in concrete. "I have learned so much thanks to the searchable articles on the FHB website. Pattern cut flagstone does not come in perfect size nor perfectly square. Now what? 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Then we mixed a ratio of 2 parts mortar to 1 part pea gravel. Jeff. Or pull up some layer of sand and put screening in? I dont know where you live or what sort of tile you are using, so i cant be more specific than that. If the foundation is nominal, then there may be shifting. And as it is not outside, we are not getting natural rain/drizzle/snow which might more effectively harden up the joint areas. Come to think of it, one of the private residences in Colonial Williamsburg has a stabilized pea gravel front walk. Install another 46 tons of gravel, this time the appropriate 3/4 minus, angular crushed stone with fines. Get complete site access to expert advice, how-to videos, Code Check, and more, plus the print magazine. It would compact into a pretty hard surface over time. Polymeric sand is generally intended for dry laid paver applications. Science demands this of me. But yeah, Id try and d-limonene it, maybe try a careful pass with a pressure washer. Other times I go with a crumbly-dry mix. I can say without reservation that you should repair the flagstone patio that you haveand never replace it with stamped concrete. Not a big fan of waterproofing goop being sprayed into stone screenings either. This is hard for the dogs to walk on (sharp edges). I really liked the overall performance of Techniseal HP2 Polymetric sand; so I went with this as the final selection. Either way, best of luck to you on your flagstone repair! It depends on where you live. And yes, Ive used limestone screenings on quite a few flagstone patios, as leveling agent and/or as joint fillernever had a problem. Thanks again! Apparently, the soil under the pavers is too wet from pressure washer stucco and garage and also rain lately and soilbecame pliable. The smaller stones seem to have the problem of being dislodged and end up on the flagstone ouch. Thank you Devin! Ive seen people do this where the joints were significantly larger than the size which you described as acceptable. What do you suggest for front stair edges to prevent the stone from being tippy? The look is great, however, it is too soft for their liking. I was looking for an explanation of red dust. Cracks will form. Material cost is more or less of no importance so if decomposed granite would work better or look better than other stone dust I would use it. In the shady area moss will grow in the screenings, in the sunny area, maybe not so much. Seen it before and everyones gift is unique. Now, my joints were set tight, maybe half inch widewider joints than that might be an issue. This includes gator dust and any other type or brand of polysand. Quikrete Assorted All-Purpose Gravel 50 lb. I am considering adding about 5 to 10 tons of fines to firm things up a bit, hoping that the smaller particles will help lock the larger stones in place. Oh and 5. the environment.This stuff is not good for our eco system, our planet, beloved mama earth. I cant say too much about stabilized decomposed granite. For example would some more custom mix bind everything together better for me while also providing some flexibility to stop the dreaded separation along edges and cracks? Stone would have to be of appropriate thickness, outdoor adhesives/exterior thinset used for the ornaments. Shove some stuff under there. Check out http://www.stepables.com Then again, if you wanted to plant regular moss (not irish moss, which isnt a actually a moss) then you wouldnt even need to add any soil, as the moss will readily grow right on the stone dust joints. Hello Devin, thank you for the very informative article. Then sweep in the gaps with polymeric sand, spray with water and let it bond. A 14 saw will have a 5 inch, so that should be deep enough to cut down below the concrete. Great advice and beautiful work around the pool.. thank you! Im 61 and have hauled a TON of this slate. (Note: I am not a professional, but love to DYI landscape). I thought I was the only one because the rookies and the guys who just want the money sell it like its some kind of elixir. water@tramfloc.com; Fax 480-383-6895; Call us! Ive used products before where you actually add a binder to the gravel. Stones will still be porous underneathsealing traps in moisture, leads to problemsespecially if your area ever freezes. I live in Seattle in case that is important. Quarries will sell it by the ton or by the yard, but a masonry supply place will usually let you fill a five-gallon bucket. Personally, my preference is to merely lay larger stone along the edge of the patiohave all of your edge flagstones, large. It appears that the base is a sand mixture, not concrete. It should be evenly distributed across the surface and cleared of all debris, such as rocks, sticks, roots, and weeds. Push down on it, one corner of the stone at a time. 2.5 inches over a ten foot span will be enough, provided there are no major dips. Privacy Policy. Even after several rains and power washing them, it is prevalent. they were sagging, and needed to be re-done, so why not try to re-purpose them into a patio for our growing family. Scroll down to the heading that says How to install stone dust in between your flagstones. Great article and Q&As! First of all know that at this point, any means to clean off the stones will likely destroy the joints that youve installed. ( said with a Japanese accent):). You excavate the desired area for your walkway or driveway to about one inch and fill it to the top with pea gravel. The location is climate type 9b, Northern California. My dry laid process is described here. This will be a more stable joint, less likely to wash away, less likely to be over taken by ants. Even less worried about it, if your area does not freeze during the winter. Repoint with Masons mortargrout is for tile work, indoors. Set aside ample time for the project, haste makes waste. Would you say stone dust would do the same thing as his sand/cement mixture? Privacy Policy. Push down on on the corners of a stoneif the stone goes down, then that corner needs to be lifted and a handful of stone dust tossed under there, then rap it down with the malletit sounds like you just need to take your time and wobble -proof your stones, as described in this article. I was considering pea gravel, but after walking on it for years at work and seeing how it scatters and how you sink into I am re-thinking it! It looses its gravel texture, it just ceases to be gravel.looking like a cross between a rice crispy teat and black-topbut looking nothing like a gravel walkway. Tell a friend and stuff. Spread it all over and hosed it down into cracks. Here in NE Ohio, limestone dust is all that is readily available. Screenings are not the same as polymeric sand. 2. Ochre stone is actually a byproduct of ochre mining, it's kind of like brown crusher run. Thank you for the responses. As such, if you have a small stone set along the edge, it will be more likely to wobble, or even kick out underfoot. Travertine fits together so tight, I think stone dust would be too big. I just put down some pea gravel around my fire pit area and now anytime someone walks on it the gravel gets into the mulch and all over. Place the pea gravel on top of the concrete mix and level it out with the trowel. If not then feel free to contact me via emailI know a guy who is awesome at this type of work! Expect to be topping off the stone dust trenches a couple times a year, first year or 2. All the flagstone is stable and still level. What is the best way to get the cracks between the flagstones sealed? Just going to do a small area to see if it compacts. Having said all that, I still prefer to fit pattern flagstone more tightly, quarter inch to eighth an inchon a recent 400 square foot patio that we built we had eighth inch gaps.. The slab is about four inches thick so concrete ran under the wood dividers and there is an irregular floor to my trenches. It is just what I was after and while the pea gravel has the "look" it does not have the stability. Devin, Before my enlightenment my aha! 3. But I couldn't find it in Utah, and I also read that it sticks to your shoes and becomes a sanding agent if you have wood floors, which I do. Some people try and solve this problem with plastic edging. Other methods. Step 2 - Install the Base. Stone dust getting kicked out of the joints may be a bit of a concernbut I would fill with stone dust, hose down, and then top it off. I then took a blower and carefully blew away the very small amount of dust that accumulated on the open surface of the flagstone as a result of the vibrating process. Hi Devin I have a bunch of slate (and some stone) paths, patios and stairways, a lot of which I have built, and while they are largely stable the crushed stone I used in the joints (which matches the slates) sometimes washes out of the steeper areas especially on the two long stair paths. Once that was done, we cleaned off the blocks. -Many other ground covers to choose from. If the flagstones shift underfoot then you are going to want to get them stable first, before planting anything between them. Read that againstone dust settling down in-between flagstone is a GOOD thing. and do you ask for just that (Stone dust or screenings)? Great article Devin, We have large slabs of Indiana ledge rock some as big as 30 sf and 4 inch thick around our pool laid with 1/4 inch tolerance laid on sand with sand between the stones sme have shift and opened gaps and tilted Its impossible to fix without big machines so I am planning just to stabilize it Screenings the best? Ive created a 15 x 15 flagstone patio using 1.5-2.5 mostly flat, some irregular stones. Thx, I do phone/email consultations for $93 an hour. Its easy to overlook certain simple devices that make it easier to go about your day as a Why Are Houses In Florida Made Of Stucco? moment ie; finding this website, we had just completed installation of a flagstone patio upon which the contractor used hundreds of bags of polymeric dust (Gator Dust). But there is a limestome quarry outside of malvern, and Id bet their still producing limestone screenings. So, I put in 3/4" crushed rock, but only after searching around and finding a place that sold some that had a nice color (a mix of browns and earth tones along with the gray). If you set your flagstones upon a gravel foundation/on a bed of sand or stone dustthen fill your joints with stone dust. I love the back and forth in the comments section. and our Id love to find something natural in a deep blu to go with the bluestone. You need a foundation of compacted road base gravel. Thank you again and Best Regards! It got cut off mid-sentence and Id hate to miss anything important. Each unit of our concrete block is approximately 3,000 lb in weight and 5' x 2'-5" x 2'-6" in dimensions. Results may varypolymeric sand is not always easy to fix.. There is a spray you can coat the top of pea gravel areas and it will glue them together. Properly installed, rain washing the decomposed granite out from in between the flagstones should not be a problem. I have an Arizona flagstone patio & sidewalk with mortar over concrete pad and live in Colorado. Good luck! I was wondering how best to address a potential problem as winter is approaching. Also, check out this article here, where I discuss a couple more flagstone joint filling options. Its liquid plastic, alright. Therefore I very carefully applied the poly sand directly into the joints using a grout bag. Tree limbs, leaves and mud can end up on the driveway. The sales guy who sold the glue mess to the general contractor (yes, I subbed, once upon a time!) I just completed a four month long project laying 800 sf of irregular Pennsylvania Blue flagstone (variable thickness stone of 1.5 to 2.25 inches think); at our house in Seattle, WA. To decrease the gravel carried away by any runoff, you can also add drainage trenches to your pea gravel installation. In bucks county you can get red screeningsblooming glen quarry, outside of Quakertown. The base is stone dust, by the way, not sand. Where can I buy stone dust? Further, the stone dust I have seen is just the flour part of the DG that you describe using, without any of the 1/8 particles. It can be used in a pinch if your setting bed is very thin - like 1/4 to 1/2" inch and preferably with a tad bit of a binder sifted in to keep the particles from shifting. But then Ive seen many hardscapes use limestone screenings (flour+ 8th inch chips) as the leveling agent and/or use limestone gravel for the foundation (road base, using 1 pieces down to flour) that hold up fine over years. Well, if the foundation and pitch all seem decent, then Id simply suggest removing the gator dust and replacing with stone dust. Were halfway through a DIY of flagstone on the side of our driveway. Compare. We need to replace the joints and extend the patio 10 feet. Compact the pavers and gravel again with a heavy-duty roller or by driving a vehicle over the area. But d-limonene does dissolve a few types of plastic, so I am thinking that d-limonene with a wire-brush just might do the trick. Incorporating the gravel into the soil seems to have improved the drainage, too. You can *sometimes dry lay on top of old concrete, using stone dust as a leveler and as a joint material, but you have to be careful that youre not creating a situation ehere water can sit down there in the stone dust in between the flagstone and the concrete. 8-12 of compacted 21AA limestone (well compacted), decomposed granite and then filled the joints with decomposed granite. Never seal grave level exterior stone. I have had a flagstone patio installed over 10 years ago. Excellent advice! The first option that I gave will not keep 100 percent of the gravel in placebut most of it, yesand if you remember to use modified gravel, gravel with smaller chips and stone dust in it, then it should feel pretty sturdy underfoot. Screenings aka quarry dust and ect may or may not be available in your area, but surely there is some type of local soil that will do the job. Theres environmental impact happening. First of all, I build flagstone pathways, not DG. If an area is Shady or damp then sometimes that can cause thin algae growth that can make flagstones look dirty. Unfortunately it's about 3" deep! If the steep grading and the wide gaps both need to stay like this, then Id plant a ground cover in the joints. We did buy poly sand, but can exchange it for the screening. Is there a liquid or possible caulking that could be used in this type of situation? If your patio is built upon a concrete foundation then you want to repair the joints with mortar. (stabilizing the bed to lay on?) Free Store Pickup Today. What is the best order to correct an incompleted project gone awry? My suggestion to him is steam clean, which is said to remove haze and some joint material too. You are building a flagstone patiojust use stone. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The article above addresses flagstone joints in a dry laid applicationwith a gravel foundation. The joints are too wide. Your thoughts please? Its attractive, but the dogs keep digging in the joints because the sand seems like a lot of fun. If you do this, please keep me updated, let me know how it works. Resulted in ugly haze. Also, are their any loose flagstones? hi, I just finished building a house with permeable driveway. Theres also some mention of stabilized decomposed granite. Screenings are crushed stone. What do you suggest using in the joints of a Limestone walkway (in NY)? A gap much wider than half an inch will become a minor puddle spotand that water will go down into the ground. The other thing to watch for, as far as separation between your mortar joint and the edge of your flagstoneis getting everything clean. *If you are in a place that never gets below freezing, then these recommendations are less crucial. It became the neighborhood cat litter box yuck! Any idea how to remove the haze from the pavers? Im glad I read this and plan to steer well clear of polymeric sand. A lifting eye present on the top of . YES, its supposed to be fun and tiringyoure doing it right! The two terms are often used interchangeably, but the two products should not be used interchangeably. PDF for Aggregates/Sand & Gravel Washing Polymer Additions. Ahhh, it is grande indeed. have never once needed to replace a stone, and its maybe 800 sq ft flagstone, all told. Hello, I apologize if this has already been answered. But the real complaint that I have against this gravel glue epoxy whatever were talking about, the real complaint is that it just does not look good. Boil a pot of water, to kill weeds. Get a product called gravel lok or a pebble binder product use them a lot they work great. Sorry for the delayed responseIve been busy finishing up with the years work before the winter sets in. Yes, whenever you grind out mortar joints between flagstone, I pretty much expect a stone or two to pop up lose. Im trying to keep my foundation dry on north side of home. Sorry for the type Os..obviously Flagstone and Stone Dust sorry. If it still collects lots of water, its a good indicator that you need to dig a drainage trench. Thanks, I added your sculpture to my Facebook timeline nice work! All rain is during the winter months. Like on your clothes or something. Only now did I realize that I neglect to answer. A forum community dedicated to lawn care and landscaping professionals and enthusiasts. This second method doesnt clean up quite as easily as the powdery-dry method. Gaps are approxly one inch. A friend recommended polymeric stone dust so I did a search. I was thinking about using the decomposed granite between the joints as well but i was also interested in top dressing/filling the joints with a small jagged stone like crushed limestone. Lay an inch of 1/4 minus (stone dust, oathway fines, DG) over this, screed out nice and level, hose down ( on the shower setting, dont soak) then tamp. Clean the joint of all dust and debri. Then gently give it a few taps with a mallet to seat it into place. Small voids may be left underneath your paving unitsespecially if you are using irregular natural stone. Now in my irregular natural shaped flagstone patio work I will usually leave gaps averaging about three quarters of an inch wide. They say I mixed the cement wr. Im thinking you could take a concrete saw and just run one cut down the middle of the trench. Greetings! Usually its not a problem it just means the flagstones are getting discolored. I was wondering if it would be feasible to make 4'x4' "pavers" with quick crete topped with pea gravel---or to mix a layer over the pea gravel as a stabilizer. I already clear out a 15 X 15 for my back patio. So the stones just didnt get seated properly. Scrub with the broom a bitthen hose off. Find someone who specializes in dry laid flagstone work. Fill the joints with stone dust/aka screenings, decomposed granite, ectthe same stuff you should use to level the stones out with. I cant find anyone who sells decomposed granite. I used screenings to fill in between the joints. Is there another name for dg/screenings? It's been over 5 years, and still doing good, although I've had to add a few bags of mulch here and there. My husband who is a builder always goes to the product, which i always talk him out of, but cement is one that I cant seem to stop him from. Deep bow of thanks for all of the wisdom youve shared here with your article and the comment section. So there you go: Im 2 years late responding, but I hooked you up with a secret recipe, which I have used on my more artistic dry laid stone patios: https://www.devineescapes.com/artistic-flagstone-patios/. Most polymeric sand manufacturers offer at least two colors that match 95% of the interlocking pavers on the marketplace today: tan and grey. Awesome, youre welcome and Im glad to help. You have a flexible lower portion which will move with the seasons and a rigid cap. Is this stone in question local, or otherwise desireable to you? Simple, right? Wow, thats frustrating. I have thought of using the polymeric sand to keep out both as much as possible. I do not recommend paver setits basically polymeric sand, and I do not like polymeric sand with flagstone. I have tried poly sand (with the correct amts of watering)but find that the sand forms a crust, other areas may be soft and mushy, and if I dig down it is not solid. I would like to fill the joint of the flagstone patio with decomposed granite so I can match the color somewhat. Pea gravel is round and tends to roll, so laying down a base layer of a more coarse, angular rock can help stabilize the pea gravel. Make sure the patio is pitched hard enough. 87880917 4 yr. ago. A wire-brush plus a lot of elbow grease will often remove much of the hazewill rarely get it all though. Thank you for your devotion to this subject. STone flour, such a fine dust that dampening it somewhat, sorta binds it up. The joint are fairly wide 1 to 2.5 average, and he even left some 3-6 areas along the perimeter walls. Ditto what had been said here about using pea gravel. these fines, when dampened, actually do bind up with the larger chips, becoming semi-solid. You also have to be very careful that the joint is filled all the way, and also make sure that there is no material left on top of the paving units, before you hose down. No freeze-thaw issues. Ill get on it. Is it worth bothering with or will the gravel do the job itself? My front walk is flag stone set in concrete. "I have learned so much thanks to the searchable articles on the FHB website. Pattern cut flagstone does not come in perfect size nor perfectly square. Now what? 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